Long-Term Care: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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    John Oliver explains the industry behind nursing homes and assisted living facilities, and why long-term care needs fixing.
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    1. HrafnkelHarthrathi

      This wouldn't be a problem if we didn't live in car-dependant cities

    2. heyysimone

      The moment John said the reason for the pond was horrifying, i felt sick. I immediately knew because of all the other shit John has talked about with places like this, that someone had died there and they most definitely shouldnt have been able to get there.

    3. heyysimone

      When John said "it's spiders" i yelled "fuck you John" and then remembered im listening to this with headphones.

    4. asioe kiou

      The amount of things I have learned from this show are quite impressive.

    5. gpturismo

      We had to pull $10,000 from my wifes 401k to hire an Elder Care lawyer. Her father was in one of the better ones and sadly that saying much. This was to handle the medicaid part which long term insurance said we had to obtain and they would cover the rest. Medicare was looking to cover up to 7500 a month, where the long term insurance would cover the 2500 rest. Then covid hit and that claimed him. 'Murica. I have a feeling they sped up some older folks passing to clear beds because they had a waiting list. Also, many states say places can not kick out residents unless they have a place to go to take care of them, but you can be responsible for expenses.

    6. Simon Sieverts

      Please do a show on Steven Donziger, at best before his case on May 10th. Please?

    7. Jagonistdai

      I know of at least one other situation where I spend hours in my bed screaming in pain, there's just a bit more movement involved lol

      1. asioe kiou

        would cost to fix the said problem.

    8. The Amazing Hatriot

      I mean....if you've gotta tell people not to harass the alligators.....just don't bother, they're better off harassing them.

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    10. Moxie Lofton

      "enumerating the systemic problems of capitalism without directly naming it"

    11. BiggPappaRappa

      I for one would to like to welcome our new arachnid overlords!

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    13. Gene Thompson

      Biden is a fucking moron. Stop praising him.

    14. Madd Dogg

      Okay... not a big Oliver fan - particularly the shoe-horned jokes that fall flat through such disturbing topics, but that image of an elderly Oliver triggered a genuine belly laugh.

    15. Joseph Daniels

      I volunteered at a nursing home (with a lot of disabled residents) for a bit during middle school, and I want to cry imagining any of the residents in bad care. Many of them often got confused and had a few issues, but they were lovely people and deserve to live in a good environment that can cater to their needs. The staff should also be payed lots of money since while I don't regret working there, it could be a bit mentally tolling and I can't imagine doing the more difficult parts of the job EVERY DAY, especially since some of the residents would get into fights. Generally, nursing homes deserve better, both for the workers and the residents.

    16. Bard88

      I just quit working at an assisted living facility. Management refused to do anything when a coworker sexually harassed another female coworker. They didn't care about the residents or employees, just money.

    17. Mera Aleta

      Long term care facilities shouldn't be privately run, it's as simple as that.

    18. deviljon

      For profit models are always going to be so anathemic to care outcomes that I will never be a libertarian.

    19. Jens Møllgaard Jensen

      I love Living in Denmark.

    20. matthew benard

      Yeah sounds like the USA " oh we can get more money from this guy, sorry Fred, its on the street for you we can make more money" The Capitalist system as work. The whole of america id so demented, and crule. All you God fearing people should, cause your country should be burned to ash by the father.

      1. eshu orishas

        That’s not how things are or should be solved.

    21. Kiseki Enthusiast - John Bird

      yeah this system needed to be reworked since the 1980s sadly this isn't a new problem just covid put it in the light then put a fire under administration.

    22. Kiseki Enthusiast - John Bird

      i love how canada called in the army for help for the first 2 months of the pandemic then pushed the problem under the rug shortly afterwards because of how much money it would cost to fix the said problem.

      1. Kiseki Enthusiast - John Bird

        yeah in ontario it was 28 residents for every worker in a 8 hour shift something like 20 minutes a person a day.

    23. Bunny, Easter

      What I remember from this segment is that John did not age well

    24. Jesper Thystrup

      American hypercapitalism at its best.

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    26. Aella Lee

      Hey now! Some of my best friends are spiders. They eat a lot of bugs that are pests to humans. What do we do to the spiders in the future that they no longer want to be silent helpers of humanity?

      1. eshu orishas

        Spider lives matter!

    27. Boomer 1941

      This guy has the brains of that object my dog leaves in the backyard every morning, I don't call them turds I call them Ollies...lol

      1. eshu orishas

        Wow. You sure roasted him. I’m sure that’s considered an epic insult in your break room at Walmart.

    28. Susan Napoli

      My mom is 87 she had Covid she’s been isolated since the start of Covid she screams for help because she can’t find the nurses button I call every day she doesn’t answer the phone anymore she says the phones out of reach so I have to call the nurses desk that can take an hour. She tells me she’s in pain and I have to call the manager and then they finally do x-rays figure out it’s another UTI probably had like 20 in the last year, I FaceTimed her one day and her chest was sticking out she look like Rigamortus her body was all stiff and she started yelling at me like she was being held captive of course I called the manager come to find out they weren’t giving her any pain medicine she had told the doctor she wasn’t in any pain and they had it to where she had to ask for it it wasn’t just given to her so I got that taken care of it’s continuous so I’m always having to call to help. She said sometimes they change her and sometimes they just let her sit in it it’s a hit or miss she says she says the lady next to her she must have money because she always gets people over there looking at her she’s in a little 5 x 7 area with a curtain drawn so she can’t see anything three walls and the half the time she can’t remember how to turn on the TV so she doesn’t think she has TV. She said she’s been having very vivid dreams that she’s walking she can’t walk so she’s trying to Scooch down out of the bed I told management that and she ended up falling I hate nursing home she even told me before she went into the nursing home if she wanted me to kill her of course I was like no mom I can’t do that I’m gonna go to jail I got more stories than that will just leave it here they’re terrible places!

    29. Eric P

      If the cost is 100k per year and the staff is getting 30k, each resident should have their own personal nurse.

    30. Benjamin Gal-Or

      Three books [1][2][3] and two Free Online [4][5], unequivocally prove that when idiot-politicians appoint themselves superior over science, people become victims, many die helplessly. Hitler burned Einstein's top science books in Germany and fired all jewish professors [1], murdered 6 million, caused ~100 million killed in WW-II and causing talent empty post-war German universities - a set trend, understand not science, attack authors of new ideas. Non-Scientist, German leader today, KURZGESAGT, publishes endless science online booklets based on her "German Love'', further deepens emptiness. "No-need to be scientist" to replace scientists, some of her ONE-LINE followers claim, yet, CAN'T WRITE MORE THAN A LINE, NOR READ A FEW, WHILE TAINTING THIS CIVILIZATION. Same trend. A highly criticized, US Pandemic-Politician-Czar, a Non-PhD-Scientist?, is conducting, with a superior smile, 590,110 Americans Deaths & consulting India about its 213,997 runaway Deaths [6]. 20-30% of new CORONA Variants slip through border controls [7], while some Governments face today Relocating some populations to VIRUS-FREE domestic & international locations, as greatest life-or-death dilemma in history. Here are Death # in a few, VIRUS-FREE ISLANDS-ATOLLS out of ~37,100, to compare with Runaway Virus Control Ability Nations, RaVCAN [6]: British Virgin Islands 1 Grenada 1 Sn Barth 1 Montserrat UK 1 Cayman Islands 2 Fiji 2 Timor-Leste 3 Sn Vincent 11 Sn Martin 12 Taiwan 12 Caribbean NL 16 Mauritius 17 New Zealand 26 Sint Maarten 27 Seychelles 28 Bermuda 28 Iceland 29 Isle of Man 29 Antigua & Bermuda 32 Monaco 32 Sad Death # in Runaway Virus Control Ability Nations, RaVCAN [6]: U.S. 590,110 BRZL 404,287 MXC 216,907 INDIA 213,997 UK 127,524 ITL 121,033 RUS 110,520 FR 104,514 GRM 83,675 SPN 78,216 CLMB 73,720 PLND 67,924 ARGN 63,865 PRU 61,477 SAFR 54,350 INDNS 45,652 UKRN 44,436 TRKY 40,131 Costs of moving people to Safe, VIRUS-FREE CLIMATES, are enormous. YET, it is far less than accepting surging, non-abating, lost-lives, by relying ONLY on biochemistry [6][7]. THESE ARE FACTS, BUT: Hitler Trend Rule: - Understand not science, attack authors of new ideas REFERENCES [1] EINSTEIN, His life and Universe by WALTER ISAACSON, 675 page, THE # 1 NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER, SIMON & SCHUSTER PAPERBACKS, 2007. [2] Cosmology, Physics and Philosophy by Benjamin Gal-Or, AMAZON, Springer, ONLINE UPDATE, [4]. [3] Vector Propulsion, Supermaneuverability and Robot Aircraft,by Benjamin Gal-Or, AMAZON, Springer, Wikipedia, [5]. [4] Id. at 'in', youtube, etc. 2021 [5] Id. at 'in', youtube, etc. 2021 [6] Data Sources: Thousands of dedicated Drs., Nursers, Health-Care Workers in ~180 nations daily reporting to US university JH, World Health Organization, WHO, reordered in this PRIVATE, NON--AFFILIATED, NON-FUNDED STUDY since Oct 22, 2020. [7] asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/COVID-variants-swamp-India -and-Japan-hospitals-5-things-to-know Copyrights: Prof. Dr. Benjamin Gal-Or & David Galor, May 1, 2021.

    31. Caittie Lynn

      I’ve worked in elder care in Canada. It is just as bad. Public not-for-profit facilities are just as bad. People are just dumped off by their families and there isn’t enough staff. Our regulations are super lax. IMO families need to be caring for their loved ones as long as possible, and then go to hospice where there is larger staffing and regulation. Peoples don’t care enough about the elderly.

    32. max2082

      Btw this Stephanie Costa has that creepy little girl voice. Clearly a lot of weird stuff happening with her. lol

    33. max2082

      It should be a law that it is required to have a nursing staff of four to six people per twenty residents at a long term facility at all times.

    34. HyShade

      The owners keep most of the money for themselves, just like all those greedy corporate executives out there. Why? Because they can, and there's no rules against it. It's brutal and awful and will never change.

    35. bouytt guyt

      her caretaker as well as her baby girl.💔 😇💜

    36. Kei's Adventures

      Why I offered to offer taking care of my grandparents when I came home to stay for a bit, so they could spend time with the great grand kids... The other issue is how little some people of that older generation lack respect for the younger generation, and still want to act like they are the parents... not the great grandparents... I say this from the perspective of a mother; who is constantly told by them as they are glued to the news how changing anything with the problems in the world is impossible, and any work done in the community is a waste of my time... Old people can be extremly difficult to care for sometimes.

      1. Kei's Adventures

        My other grandmother however, was a saint with a heart of gold. She was poor but was surrounded by family and a community who loved her in her final days. That to me now feels like a special treasure... Love matters so much.

    37. WaywardGoddess

      The reason people walk off is while the doors have alarms, they are NEVER LOCKED which always baffled me. As someone who worked in a few care homes, both high class and ghetto, you always get a MINIMUM of 10 patients and usually at least half if not all are incontinent and a good portion are total care, meaning you need a minimum of 2 workers to perform and care. I worked in one care home on a unit of 31 patients, only 3 were cognitive. Every one was incontinent and at least 10 were feeders. Shifts there were 12hrs and we were always understaffed. This was last May too btw so covid was just starting. I worked the recovery hall one shift with about 20 patients by myself for 13hrs. I stayed an extra 2hr to help the night aide cause she was gonna be by herself. And very few care homes have memory units. Even the one that had a nice one, bumped a dementia patient to a main hall cause of medicare/Medicaid BS and that hall was a heavy hall, it had 5 total care patients alone and never had less than 14 patients on the hall. Because they count how many beds are full/available not how much care a patient will need. I am so glad I work at a hospital now because at least my patients get better and go home.

      1. WaywardGoddess

        @bouytt guyt one guy who owned a bunch across a couple states was forcing people to GO BACK TO WORK AFTER TESTING POSITIVE FOR COVID!

      2. bouytt guyt

        UNNECESSARY so the banks got us, Again.) Equity Owned nursing homes have as high a death rate as 'covid.' Also, it saves 90% of Medicare to simply keep people Home.

    38. Anton Brakhage

      Anybody arbitrarily capping a list at 88 makes me twitchy. I'm 90% sure its coincidence, but the use of the number 88 is a known neo-Nazi code (the eight letter of the alphabet is H, so 88 is code for "Heil Hitler").

    39. BP Bartlett

      Spiders! Thanks for the nightmares lol

    40. Zach T

      Makes an early death not sound so bad

    41. bcvbb hyui

      pray that I die long before I need one of these places.

    42. Ali

      When my great grandmother went to a life care center, she begged me to come see her every day. She said, "They treat you better when they know you've got family."

    43. Patrick Kilduff

      To be fair to most of these places, old people die...like all the time...would you remembered if you just went in your sleep? OR...eaten by a gator?! Crazy shits gonna happen no matter how well staffed and well trained everyone is...

    44. On Couch Arrest

      I worked as an RN in Long Term Care for about 3 years. I wouldn’t put my dog in the facility I worked at, we were so short staffed people did not get looked after as they should. 🇨🇦I’m hoping this pandemic has shown how badly our seniors are cared for and big changes come for the most vulnerable in our society. 🤞 I would go home feeling terrible and that is why I changed jobs. When I worked in the ER, people would drop off their family members because they couldn’t care for them at home anymore and the wait list to get into LTC was so long. That person would get sent to our Acute care floor and wait there until a LTC bed became available. This person would pay the hospital as if they were in LTC. The whole system needs to be over hauled and we need more LTC beds and more trained staff who will get paid better. It’s a nightmare considering we have the boomers getting to the age of needing LTC.

      1. bcvbb hyui

        place those bastards in the worst care facilities!

    45. Karma Sauce

      This is what capitalism looks like. And it has seeped into every fiber of American fabric. It's basically the moral for every LWT episode.

    46. AcrylArt. ca

      How Moronic do you have to be to not understand that For PROFIT Health CARE is the definition of an OxyMoron?

    47. Chris Riley

      Hot take: this show is better without an audience EDIT: I’m also located in Ohio, so I hope this doesn’t disqualify me

    48. aimlesslost

      I'm an only child of a woman who also has 3 sisters who never had kids, despite them all marrying even twice 1/2 of the time. I often worry for them and also for myself if I think too far into the future , and also alzheimers is an issue genetically and my grandma and great grandma suffered from it when I was younger. It is sort of a mindfuck especially with an exponentially shrinking family .

    49. Emily LLoyd

      I'm a hospice social worker. This is the center of my job. It's hell

    50. Galactic Gaming

      In terms of Long Term Care, things have gotten really bad in Canada. Specifically in Ontario. It’s terrible out here.. But I agree, that plate F U C K S

    51. shikhar khandare

      So much useful info in every episode but just because John oliver can't resist making a vulgar joke people can't share it with family and friends or even recommend it. #OpportunityLost

    52. Rosalba Kolkemeyer

      DreyHils on telegram is a real vendor I can’t believe my eyes that man too real goat on this he on telegram he sell credit card with high balance.

    53. Rogue Cow

      Taxpayers continue to pay the costs of long term care nursing homes via Disability claims: staff in these 'homes' have some of the highest injury rates in the nation. Lifting passive weight all day, or sometimes combative people, does a lot of damage to a person's body and mind. Also, sexual assaults on the job are common and legal: there's no reporting system for assaults of workers, so when clients attack us, they are not dealt with then sent to other homes where they attack clients (Then it's a problem.)

    54. Rogue Cow

      I've written everyone in govt. about high death rate in long term care since 2010: no one cared. Also wrote MSM outlets for a decade: no one cared. They've ALWAYS DIED IN HIGH NUMBERS IN LONG TERM CARE & I've heard/seen people calling police to 'get help' often, which I've done a few times myself, but this field is headed by corrupt officials who Don't Care. They want the poor to die and end up with their assets & SSI: the expected life span of usa citizens is going down. The ARTIFICALLY high death rate in nursing homes that overuse psychotropic drugs so they can hire skeleton crew was used to justify largest bank bailout since 2008 (which I just learned WAS COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY so the banks got us, Again.) Equity Owned nursing homes have as high a death rate as 'covid.' Also, it saves 90% of Medicare to simply keep people Home. Oregon, as many other states, prefers to destroy the Stay at Home program and get rid of workers (who make about $4/hr. & have less than 1 day off a month) in favor of federally funded nursing homes (more money for their state budgets & they can get rid of the elderly poor quicker that way.)

    55. William Eubanks

      John Oliver, I watch your show quite frequently. I even re-watch them. Most likely because I'm clinically insane. (Jokes) As I have watched your show throughout the years, I have witnessed an evolution. Not of you but our society. Your comical dialogue on the human condition is not only detailed but very enjoyable. With that being said, I am distraught with the course the human race is plummeting. I do not need to explain to you what I am referring to, as you report on these subjects every Sunday your show is on. You do a very good job of informing us of what is actually happening as well as what we can do as individuals to NOT perpetuate the shit that is being peddled in this world by disingenuous greedy people. I am wanting to ask you this. What is it going to take for the human race to stop being such raging dickbags? When will the collective good out shine the shit show that are racist, greedy or just evil people. Is it a perception issue? Am I just not seeing the good anymore? Now, I know those are some deep questions, but I feel like you could do it justice. You have answered a lot tougher questions. I know this will probably fall into the cracks of the internet. But I would like to know what you think it will take for the human race to actually move forward in a better manner than we have been able to muster so far.

    56. A terror way beyond falling

      That is one old Grey's Anatomy joke...

    57. David Shane

      My girlfriend worked for Brookdale for a little over a year and their service is disgusting at least in east Tennessee.

    58. The

      Oh God, I’m never putting my mom in a long care home, she’s gonna live in my house till she dies.

    59. J LA

      The US claims to be so great, great nations don't treat their elders this way! It's disgusting! I would rather be dead than live in one of those facilities. My family will care for our parents. It's awful how we treat those people who are responsible for us being here! Honestly I don't get it at all. Screw every politician who would vote against their care and place those bastards in the worst care facilities!

    60. Theodoros Theologou

      You guys should definetly check the story on the Nursing Home in Crete, Greece. Where they were killing off residents. The things that came to life the past few days are HORRIFIC

    61. Matthew Harris-Levesque

      Appropriate Bjork link: nlname.info/project/video/cZ3WlnC5pqiHiJ8

    62. Oscar Cuadra

      John, I know this comment fall on feaf ears, but if you need another hair trial, dye it pink. It will work.

    63. nmcgreen64

      During the pandemic the Canadian government just increased wages for health care aids by $4 an hour permanently!

    64. Richard Gauthier

      This time you've gone too far .... Velveta is delicious

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    66. Eric B

      Good on you for raising awareness.

    67. Matt Jamison

      The haircut joke and the crunch wrap supreme joke both had me rolling. 😄 EDIT: Hadn't finished the video yet, and the abandoned White Castle joke got me too. 😆

    68. yasio bolo

      anymore right now. I can't believe that 1.1k people could dislike this. WTF is wrong with them?

    69. Nurse Armstrong

      Speaking from experience, residential care homes are a better alternative. They are actually houses that are equipped for elderly with nursing staff available 24 hours.

    70. Duke Kelloway

      Holy crap am I glad I'm in Canada. My mother is in an apartment complex that offers daily care and is very happy and content. It might happen here but I've not heard of at this level and I feel it is profit driven. Fortunately when you allow some socialist policy it helps remove some of the greed based issues.

    71. Sudharshan Srinivasan

      14:01 "Uncredited extra from an entourage party scene " 😂

      1. yasio bolo

        1:32 Uhm... I'm watching this on my phone...

    72. Poonam Srivastava

      Pay the workers more! Mandate that. My sisters final 4 years were in a nursing home. Train and pay these ppl. It kills me to remember how often she called me because noone was answering the button.

    73. Poonam Srivastava

      I hope JO sticks to this NO AUDIENCE format. Spiders or not.

    74. Dean Champion

      Why can cops and nursing homes execute/murder people, yet neither lose their positions of power (job and/or corporate charter)? It seems as if the cops are murdering people consistently with the consent, if not encouragement of the government - as are nursing homes. How about trying democracy and "the rule of law" (you know, the one where we all have to obey the same laws - no "get out of jail free" cards).

    75. Dean Champion

      Hammer, shovel, backyard. Use them. Census data is publicly available - we KNOW how many "old people" there are and there will be. The "powers that be" invested heavily in nursing homes and funeral parlors back in the 1980s and 1990s. In the words of Edward Kaiser - the "father of HMOs"--- "you see, the less care we deliver, the more money we make". (FYI - Richard Nixon's response was, "I like that".)

    76. GrieverSSBU

      "Look at me.... that plate FUCKS."

    77. lucas marsh

      Listen to his voice, there’s no humour in it only anger.

    78. Snapdragon 9600

      Used to work those jobs. And I have a niece doing that currently. No matter how lovely those places are, you still are under their regulations.When you get up to when you sleep.frankly I want a pill when I'm too old to be independent.

    79. EpoxyMuffin

      Just had a visit with my Grandma yesterday, who is likely going to need to move in with my mom due to her age. My stomach was churning as I watched this, imagining how if my mom and her weren't close that she could've wound up in a horrible place like in this video. My heart aches for all the seniors who have to live through this.

    80. Maddog GT

      Another reason why the health system in the USA is horribly backwards compared to any other G7 nation. The U.S. System is that bad, the health care in the 12th century was better....

    81. Jessica Aster

      I'm sure somebody already posted this, but as an Ohioan his joke was funny.

    82. tsubaki X

      I love it, Thats the new American slogan, Garbage in Garbage out

    83. Braeside Bikes

      why don't we make euthanasia widely available, whether the person is terminal or not? I want to die with dignity when I want to die. I don't see why I shouldn't be allowed to, as an adult.

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    85. jeaniebird

      Don't get old, folks, it's not worth it.

    86. D Bone

      1:32 Uhm... I'm watching this on my phone...

    87. Allstreamer _

      I think oliver is slowly turning into a furry

    88. Melody Mathilde

      Yeah so I spent three years trying to get doctors to help me before finding out I have an autoimmune disease, neurological disease and chronic fatigue syndrome and am now disabled and have to work two full time jobs from home on my computer and am sick all day, don’t eat sometimes, throw up and can’t afford medications or physical therapy. And I had blue cross insurance.... it works for accidents but does nothing for long term care. And it leaves you paying hundreds of dollars for aids for your home and mobility aids. So yeah this is real and it sucks. I have no family so I’m all alone in this, and I hope anyone else who is knows they’re not alone. It’s not okay.

    89. TinyTeacup

      Once again, the massive majority of America's problems go back to capitalism!

    90. Rod Anderson

      This is just one more valid reason why the US is way down the list of the best countries to live in. EVERY YEAR the rich get richer in the US while our poor and needy are treated like garbage. You can "thank" the Republican members of Congress for this disgrace. Who did YOU vote for in the last election? Trump?

    91. LoonySpoons

      Well it is Florida, everything is next to a gator invested lake down there

    92. Damian P

      Put your phone down and look at me bahaha I'm watching u on my phone... but I listened to you John

    93. Crys Stoll

      At 13:13- what a skeeveball!

    94. Julia SG

      In ontario, there was a patient who’s family complained about the care at their nursing home and they were banned from visiting their parent Cops had to be involved because the nursing home had declared that the patient was making her own care decisions and didn’t want to speak with her family ... investigation found it to be a fabrication They held her hostage for the $$ and banned the family when they wanted her to be cared for

    95. James McCarte

      All of these problems exist in Canada's long term care homes. And the number of violations in private homes is vastly larger in private home than in public ones.

    96. Anna Matz

      I have never felt more privileged than right now. My grandparents are rich af and moved into a great facility. I have a new reason to work hard and be rich. I dont wanna be eaten by an alligator

    97. KoiPuff

      I know someone who works for Long-Term Care facilities. They were so understaffed they were shuffling the same 30 people between 5 homes. She was working 12-14 hour shifts for about 35k a year. What did she get for her loyal service? Covid. Twice.

    98. Marbles6346

      Call me brain-washed-by-the-liberal-media, but this show is fucking right about everything.

    99. Sharon Wood

      Home healthcare for a family member is also stress filled

    100. Simon Lee

      Who else thinks that a 90 year old woman being eaten by an alligator is the saddest things you've ever imagined?

      1. Cameron Sitton

        That's the stuff of nightmares.